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Daisy 617x vs Crosman 1088

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I'm on a mission to find the "perfect" CO2 repeater pistol for under $100.
In this video I'll give a quick view of the similarities and differences between the Daisy 617x and Crosman 1088. The important details are summarized below. I also show how similar the Umarex XBG is to the Springfield Armory xDm for those interested in using the XBG for training familiarity to the xDm. I know it's a bit of a hodge-podge but I didn't have a lot of time today. Maybe I'll redo this as two separate videos later.

Perfect for me is something accurate, light enough both in weight and trigger pull for my 8 year-old to use, fun for both adults and kids, preferably shoots both pellets and BBs. with decent capacity in the magazine between loadings, power enough to shoot from 30 feet or more and realistic enough to be used as a training aid. I may end up compromising due to the $100 limit, we'll see.

Daisy 617x
Pros: Very similar to a 1911, the look/dimensions are right, safety is in the right place (and ambidextrous!), so other than recoil is missing, it could help train for familiarity with the 1911 (assuming you own one). DA/SA trigger, rifled barrel, can shoot pellets or BBS, comes with 2 clips (6 shots each). truglo front sight.
Minor Cons: Only 6 shots per clip so buy more, the sights are not adjustable but they're on target, the tightening bolt knob really sticks out of the bottom of the handle (a con because it can maybe snag, not for lack of realism, unless you wanted to rob a gas station). 1911s don't have rails so no points off for that.

Crosman 1088
Pros: DA/SA trigger, rifled barrel, light trigger, adjustable rear sight, accessory rail under barrel, CO2 tightening knob hidden in grip, can shoot pellets or BBS, 8 shots per clip.
Cons: Only brings 1 clip (and I bought the "kit" that has the pellets bbs and glasses, still only 1 clip) so buy more, grip doesn't really close completely, sights are all black, not even a dot on the front sight, crossbolt safety is a little loose and can slide enough on it's own to prevent trigger pull, looks like the offspring of a sig with a keltec you might say it's not as attractive as the Daisy or the Umarex.

If you noticed, I stated "minor" cons for the Daisy while just "Cons" for the Crosman, the Daisy just has better fit and finish quality and gets a slight edge on the Crosman there. Both benefit from more ammo clips. The Crosman has an adjustable rear sight, the Daisy has a better safety and look and feel compared to a real pistol. These pistols don't have the magazine capacity of the Umarex, but it didn't have the pros of the Daisy and Crosman. They both have the god-awful fine print all over for safety messages.

If you're training little kids to shoot air pistols, these both offer a single action option that really lightens the trigger pull for young shooters. The Umarex did not have this feature and it was heavier, my 8yr old couldn't fire it. But then again it cost half as much.

I'll be shooting both of these side by side in another video
soon. Will one of these be the "perfect" pistol? We'll see...

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